Talib Kweli samples Ben Kweller
I wish more hip hop artist sampled indie rock, it brings in a whole new audience. The new Talib Kweli "mixtape" Right About Now, which was released on Kweli's label Black Smith Music, has finally made it into my music rotation and along with being the The Official Sucka Free CD(?) its also pretty good. One of my favorite tracks on the album is Ms. Hill, a track about Lauryn Hill that features a sped up sample of In other words from Ben Kwellers debut album Sha Sha. Another hightlight from the album is Fly that knot paring up Talib Kweli with MF Doom for the second time since Dangerdoom. Marathonpacks has that mp3 to download.
Talib Kweli - Ms. Hill
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OK- here's a damn wierd story about that sample. I've been a Ben Kweller fan since the Sha Sha days but I just recently got into Kweli. I went to the music store to buy the new Kweli album a few days ago. The rap and rock albums were mixed together, putting "Kweli" and "Kweller" close together. I lost my copy of Sha Sha a few months ago so I decided to re-buy it along with the new Kweli album, having NO IDEA of the sample- talk about a freak out when I got home. Coincidences suck ass.
how odd, I also hear that kweli has been a kweller fan for a while.
thank you.
kweli should have asked permission to use ben kweller's piano riff.
In Ben Kweller's "One Minute Pop Song" video podcast he seemed kinda mad that they didn't ask permission.
Give me a break.
The Talib Kweli song sounds nothing like the Ben Kweller version, and even if it did, Kweller should be thanking him for adding a tiny hint of cultural significance to his otherwise trite music.
And regarding the author, if you need hip-hop artists to sample skinny white kids with too many guitars before you listen to them, I think that says a lot more about you than the hip-hop community.
Everyone who frowns on this should go give Blackstar and Quality a listen before judging a producer(read: not the rapper) for this 3-second sample of a ridiculous suburban angst-driven song.
I was and am a fan of both artist, I just appreciate someone doing something different. Both are great musicians and should be appreciated for their own talents.
Kweller's song isn't 'angst driven'. Apparently you need to go back and re-listen to it.
You can't really blame Kweli. I really doubt that he personally sampled Ben's track... it's the producer/programmer that's doing that. Having said that, Kweller should have been asked permission by Kweli's label, it's only right.
All in all... great tracks, both Kweli and Kweller, and that's all I care about... getting my ears around great music.
I would be slighty put off too, to hear a version of my song sampled in increased speed (with the pitch change that comes with it), especially without my permission. However, I certainly see it as a pat on the back rather than an insult. As for the hater (Kid Ikarus) that had to talk shit--come on man...
"The Talib Kweli song sounds nothing like the Ben Kweller version, and even if it did, Kweller should be thanking him for adding a tiny hint of cultural significance to his otherwise trite music."
Funny you say that, because, it is the same song. So, it does sound similar. It was just sped up because that's such an original thing to do nowadays in rap. Kanye West _never_ does it.
Way to be original Kweli.
Stole a song and used a dumb rap cliché
"Everyone who frowns on this should go give Blackstar and Quality a listen before judging a producer(read: not the rapper) for this 3-second sample of a ridiculous suburban angst-driven song."
how's an upper class raised black dude that went to private school coming up writing songs about poverty and injustice any less ridiculous?
Maybe some of you should listen to these songs before spouting off.
This song isn't even about poverty and injustice--it's about Lauryn Hill's.
"stole a song and used a dumb rap cliché"
Chances are, any rap song you like has probably "stolen" something from another song. Whether it be the drum break, horns, whatever. What makes this any different than the Beastie Boys sampling he Steve Miller Band, or Dre sampling led Zeppelin?
And lastly, shouldn't we all be a little intrigued that a hip hop producer is sampling a song that has the line "Butterflies are passive aggressive, they put their problems on the shelf.."???
"The Talib Kweli song sounds nothing like the Ben Kweller version, and even if it did, Kweller should be thanking him for adding a tiny hint of cultural significance to his otherwise trite music."
Funny you say that, because, it is the same song. So, it does sound similar. It was just sped up because that's such an original thing to do nowadays in rap. Kanye West _never_ does it.
Way to be original Kweli.
Stole a song and used a dumb rap cliché
Hahahahahhaaha Guess which MC gave Kanye a big chance and took him on tour with him before you knew his name??
Thats right Kweli did!
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